In this week’s podcast we interviewed Jayne Lawson. Alongside her husband David and 3 young daughters and nephew, they operate a farm and vineyard called Black Wallaby Wines down near Bendigo in Victoria. 

For them, farming is just a way of life and they do it with passion and love. We got Jayne onto the podcast because like most people from the land, she has such an incredible and unique perspective on positivity, resilience, and resourcefulness, and we wanted to share her journey and point of view with people during these interesting times during the COVID business shutdown.

Farmers know a thing or two about resilience and she shares with us some real wisdom and ‘glass half full’ idealogy that will hopefully inspire you to make the most of what you have and build from that.

We recognise, that it’s important right now to connect with your community. It is the heart of connecting. Reach out to those around you through technology. We’re able to keep in touch with those we love, and still able to watch those that inspire you. You don’t have to be alone in isolation. I think more than ever this is the time to connect, to go deep within, take a big breath and really assess where your life is right now. And take note to see if you are happy! The world is changing, so it’s a time to wake up and really call upon our resilience and our strength, because we all have it. And that utilise that as best we can to come out the other side stronger and more adaptable to any new changes that might present itself.

Jayne explains, “It’s about embracing what you can embrace, what you have at your disposal right this minute and work with that. In life you go through tough times. Everyone has their own stories of when things weren’t so good. Sometimes I think we don’t give ourselves enough credit, we’re totally capable of picking ourselves up and keeping going. If you think back to the worst day of your life, you moved from there to here and you got through it.

So what did you do to help yourself get through that? or look at it and think to yourself there’s only two choices, you either give up and let it go or you go, or realise that’s not working so you move on and look at Plan B or approach it from a different angle. We already do that every day, we just don’t realize we’re doing it. It’s just resourcefulness.”

No one should take away from you how you’re coping with this period right now. How bad it may be or how challenging this is. You’re allowed to say ‘it’s not fair’ and stamp your feet because we are all entitled to feel like that at one point or another. We all will feel like that. But feeling like that and thinking like that isn’t changing it, and at some point you need to acknowledge that we’re all still here and we really are in this together.

This is the time to ask yourself “So what am I going to do? Am I just going to sit here and feel sorry for myself or am I going to turn around and say ‘Okay, could be worse’ then take a deep breath and move forward from there.”

Spoken like a true farmer’s wife, there is so much we can learn from people that live on the land and face crisis on a regular basis. Flood, locusts, drought, bushfires, cancelled contracts, livestock issues… the challenges are very real when you’re in farming and Jayne shares with us that no matter what, you need to be grateful for the things you have. Gratitude is so important. We need to stop being so busy and look around, take stock and appreciate what and who we have in our lives and make sure that they know it. 

“This opportunity to spend time with your kids at home, your family. Most people are so lucky to have their kids home with them during this time. You could be reading with your kids, playing games, spending quality time. How often do you say I just don’t have time to do this? I don’t have time for this reading. I don’t have time to play that board game. Share that moment, connect with your family again.” – Jayne Laws

This quarantine is really bringing to light about our white privilege, how much we think that we deserve and what we think that we’re entitled to. The more we have the more we want. While we’re all in isolation we’re still so incredibly lucky. No one’s charging into our houses telling us to leave. No one’s taking our possessions. No one’s hurting us physically. Our perspective is a bit skewed as to what people are whining about such as not being able to go out to their favourite restaurant or not being able to go to the beach. 

Despite how some people are coping, there is something far more common coming to the surface. There’s an incredibly strong sense of community. It’s really is “we are all in this together” and it’s coming from a completely selfless place. It’s deeply connecting us to something a lot bigger than just looking at ourselves. Relying on our personal and professional connections is incredibly important at the moment. People sincerely want to help, and they particularly want to help a local businesses, they want to support their community.

These incredibly strange circumstances are bringing out everybody’s true colours. While everyone is stuck at home, not distracted by the craziness and business of their everyday lives, they’re forced to take a break and look around at what really matters. And that can’t be a bad thing!


6:15 With the drought we’re still struggling through, there’s a lot of politics behind it, there is water available, but it’s not accessible.

24:54 In a crisis like Covid-19 it’s important that we’re still showing that we’re taking business seriously…we’re sticking to our word.

33:57 It’s bringing to light about our white privilege, how much we think that we deserve and what we think that we’re entitled to.

41:07 People struggle with anxiety. It’s a real condition. They’re not making it up. They’re not being dramatic.

If you would like to find out more about Jayne, you can find her on her website:


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